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SgtVoodoo
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PostSubject: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 8:31 pm

Well, just had a really wierd experiance today, nothing that serious, just kinda need to share it with someone

But basically i was sitting in class today, and i just had some crazy deja vu, which is pretty unusual, but for some odd reason, i felt like someone was going to come up behind me and just bash the back of my head in, and i suddenly felt like i had just been punched in the nose, and i actually started freaking out so much, i actually got a shot of adrenaline, and almost jumped out of my seat, ready for a fight

Its just really wierd, and its just kind of concerning to me, because i usually dont have that kind of problem, like im a tough guy, ive been in lots of fights, and i can defend myself,

But today, i was like REALLY scared

I don't know if im just paranoid, because lots of people in my school really hate me, or if im actually going crazy:/

I really dont know what to say, just know i felt something really wierd, that ive never felt before, could be nothing, just found it very wierd

Any thoughts? Suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 9:46 pm

All right, most of what I'm going to be saying below is going to be totally up to you. From what information you've given, I'll try and help run through some of my initial thoughts.

First off, these guys that "really hate" you--are you expecting some kind of trouble from this group? If so, then what kind of potential/motivation do they have of harming you? And, given the chance, would they do it?

The first thing to getting around paranoia is identifying where the problem is coming from. If these guys are putting you in a situation where you, or your possessions are in jeopardy, then you need to bring someone else in on this. I know you said that you're a tough guy and I'm not going to doubt that, but whether it's a teacher, or a parent, or an administrator, you need to know that someone in a higher "playing field" per say, has got your back.

Secondly, I know the impulse is there, but only fight if that's your last option. Yeah, you might get the crap beat out of you for the first few seconds because you weren't ready to fight, but it looks a whole lot better in the eyes of a police cop or whomever this may fall on when the dust settles because you can say that you were defending yourself.
Instead, stay relaxed. Sure it's a lot easier said than done, but is this group out to get you because they know you come out looking for a fight, or have there been some miscommunications or whatever between you and this group that makes them want to harm you?

Like I tried to say in my opening statement: I don't know exactly what is going on with you and this group. Just don't try and take this on alone. Get someone in authority informed. Knowing that you've got back up helps calm down the nerves if things go bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 10:04 pm

I know what you mean, im really not a fighter, Every fight ive been in(theres been lots), were ALL self defence, ive never thrown the first punch in a fight

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First off, these guys that "really hate" you--are you expecting some kind of trouble from this group? If so, then what kind of potential/motivation do they have of harming you? And, given the chance, would they do it?

Well im always expecting trouble, since about 75% of the peopel at my school are in this "group", Motivation? probably the fact that ive fought a bunch of there friends, and always "won" (i hate saying that, its not a game)

For example, one of them was making fun of my friends, so i told him to F--- off (i was pretty mad at that point), and he came right up to me, and just like that, threw a punch

(hate to sound cocky), but after "winning", with adrenaline and hate still going, i walked over to him while he was on the ground, and kicked him in the back, and of course, 4-6 of his friends ran at me and tottally beat me (bruised a few ribs) and im always thinking of all the fights ive gotten into, and how many of those people have those "4-6 friends" who are waiting to get payback



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The first thing to getting around paranoia is identifying where the problem is coming from. If these guys are putting you in a situation where you, or your possessions are in jeopardy, then you need to bring someone else in on this. I know you said that you're a tough guy and I'm not going to doubt that, but whether it's a teacher, or a parent, or an administrator, you need to know that someone in a higher "playing field" per say, has got your back.
I've tried, but no matter who i tell, they always see me as the bad guy, or the bully, because i always "win" fights, and they're always the ones who end up bleeding and bruised


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Secondly, I know the impulse is there, but only fight if that's your last option. Yeah, you might get the crap beat out of you for the first few seconds because you weren't ready to fight, but it looks a whole lot better in the eyes of a police cop or whomever this may fall on when the dust settles because you can say that you were defending yourself.
Instead, stay relaxed. Sure it's a lot easier said than done, but is this group out to get you because they know you come out looking for a fight, or have there been some miscommunications or whatever between you and this group that makes them want to harm you?

I've never been in a fight in my life, where i threw the first punch, its always been in self-defence. And like i said before, I always consider the fact that they may be looking for payback, for me beating up one of their friends (even though it was self defence)


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Like I tried to say in my opening statement: I don't know exactly what is going on with you and this group. Just don't try and take this on alone. Get someone in authority informed. Knowing that you've got back up helps calm down the nerves if things go bad.

I will definatly try my best, the only two things i fear in life, are drowning, and killing someone accidently (like in a fight), and i do agree that the best way to fight, is to not fight at all,if that makes sense Wink

Thanks for the advice, it really helps to talk to someone
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 10:21 pm

A few things on defending yourself.

It's ok to use force to defend yourself. If someone trys to pull the whole monk "Kill em' with kindness" thing on you and say fighting isnt the answer, thats just not true.

Look, if someone comes up to you, and gets within what we like to call your "personal space"(Within arms reach), and THREATENS you, you have every right to act first and deal with other things later. If you fear for your life that someone will harm you, defend yourself.

They don't call this kind of thing self defense for nothing. You have to use it, it's your right to defend your body and that personal space.

Now I'm not saying to go around clobbering every jerk that says something to you that just happens to be standing within arms reach. However I am saying that if you feel like they might harm you at any time, throw your best punch then move to a safe distance. If they decide to proceed back into your space again, hit them again then move.

THEY are the aggressors, not you.

Fighting in general isn't what it was when I was growing up. Now people have no honor. When we used to fight, it was 1vs1 fight untill the other person hit the ground, then the fight was over. Now, people fight and get them to the ground then CONTINUE to pound them. Thats not cool, your not proving anything by kicking them while they are down. Thats why you got jumped, if you leave it be your the hero, you continue and YOU become to bully.

Only fight when you feel threatened, words mean nothing. Don't fight unless YOU or someone else is being physically threatened.

As for killing someone in a fist fight. Don't be so worried. The human body can take a LOT of punishment. The chances of someone your size killing with a punch is extremely low. Me on the other hand, because of my size I probably could. I choose not to fight at all most of the time, even if they are within my space. Mostly because they couldn't hurt me if they wanted to and I get in trouble if I do.

Ever seen the movies with the huge giant of a guy that the hero punches ten times in the face and he just shrugs. Thats me in a fight, and thats why even if I defend myself I get slapped with assault charges and arrested. Be lucky your not this big. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptyFri Jan 16, 2009 10:38 pm

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Look, if someone comes up to you, and gets within what we like to call your "personal space"(Within arms reach), and THREATENS you, you have every right to act first and deal with other things later. If you fear for your life that someone will harm you, defend yourself.

They don't call this kind of thing self defense for nothing. You have to use it, it's your right to defend your body and that personal space.

I wish the adults at school thought like that



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Fighting in general isn't what it was when I was growing up. Now people have no honor. When we used to fight, it was 1vs1 fight untill the other person hit the ground, then the fight was over. Now, people fight and get them to the ground then CONTINUE to pound them. Thats not cool, your not proving anything by kicking them while they are down. Thats why you got jumped, if you leave it be your the hero, you continue and YOU become to bully.

Like i said before, fighting isnt a sport,there is no honor in winning, the point of it is really to hurt the other person, it doesnt just end when someone loses like a football game, and to be honest, im sick of people getting away with that crap, if someone hits me, i will do whatever i have to do to make sure they feel equal pain, and kicking him on the ground was what i had to do, i agree, anyone can do that, and i agree theres no honor in it, but fighting isnt about honor, its about making sure that person doesnt cause harm to you, and to make sure he wouldnt cause harm to me, i kicked him on the ground,

I agree with most of what you said, some not so much, but everyone has their own opinion

Anyways, it really has nothing to do with my "crazy/paranoid/anxiety" problem, thanks for your opinion though
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 5:33 am

Well dude stop getting high and going to school. Haha. No but deja vu is a really creapy feeling.
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 3:41 pm

First off, thanks for sharing. I know that sounds really corny and all but really--to step and show this problem (with people on the internet nonetheless) is a great step of trust.

At this point, I don't think the paranoia comes from the fighting. I think it may come from not being able to know when to stop.

I saw your post in the "worst day ever" about how you threw that bat at the guy's head and, from what I'm reading here about kicking the guy on the ground, I don't think the paranoia comes from the fighting--just what happens afterwards. I'm no specialist, but if I had to take a stab, it'd be close to that.

I hate sounding like the guy giving commands, but you need to try and control your anger. Those 4-6 friends didn't come up and beat you up until after you kicked the guy on the ground. Take each fight the way it's presented to you, and, as soon as you're out of danger, brush it off. That way, the only hate/anger is coming from those 4-6 guys. But when you get an extra shot in just because the initial guy may have gotten a cheap shot in, that's when the fight isn't about self defense anymore. That's when it's about pride. From experience: pride gets you in trouble.

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THEY are the aggressors, not you.
In the beginning yes. But from what I'm reading, SgtVoodoo needs to make sure he never crosses that line.

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For example, one of them was making fun of my friends, so i told him to F--- off (i was pretty mad at that point), and he came right up to me, and just like that, threw a punch
In all honesty, you had to have seen that coming. When a guy is trying act tough and bully a kid like that, stepping on his "tough" character with yours isn't going to go well.

Anyway, that's just another of my two cents. Take 'em, leave 'em. Either way--good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 6:38 pm

Thanks for the advice, and im also aware of my anger problem, apparently i get it from my dad(who we have a restraining order against), and who apparently "accidently" killed someone, because of his anger, which is what im pretty worried abou too


And i really agree with what you said, that as soon im out of the way of danger, to brush it off, i guess anger and adrenaline made me do that, and i will try my best to stop that from happening

Thanks again for the advice

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The chances of someone your size killing with a punch is extremely low. Me on the other hand, because of my size I probably could.

Did i mention im 6 foot and 220 pounds? Even if thats "small" to you, if adrenaline can make a 100pound mother flip her car over to save her child, im sure a shot of adrenaline can do some pretty bad damage
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PostSubject: Re: Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid?   Anxiety?Going crazy? Just paranoid? EmptySat Jan 17, 2009 8:44 pm

SgtVoodoo wrote:
Thanks for the advice, and im also aware of my anger problem, apparently i get it from my dad(who we have a restraining order against), and who apparently "accidently" killed someone, because of his anger, which is what im pretty worried abou too


And i really agree with what you said, that as soon im out of the way of danger, to brush it off, i guess anger and adrenaline made me do that, and i will try my best to stop that from happening

Thanks again for the advice

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The chances of someone your size killing with a punch is extremely low. Me on the other hand, because of my size I probably could.

Did i mention im 6 foot and 220 pounds? Even if thats "small" to you, if adrenaline can make a 100pound mother flip her car over to save her child, im sure a shot of adrenaline can do some pretty bad damage

Your talking about a completely different type of adrenaline surge here.

Did it occur to you that after that woman flips the car and the adrenaline wears off she would be in immense pain. Pain from ALL the muscles she tore. Wouldn't be surprised if she broke a few bones in the process as well.

6 foot isn't tall. Don't know where you come from but thats just average height around here. Your barely half my weight. Train yourself to take all types of confontations. Know that people who talk are only good at talking, not fighting.
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